Don’t Kill the Messenger welcomes veteran marketing executive and former President of The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, Cheryl Boone Isaacs.

In this episode of Don’t Kill the Messenger, host Kevin Goetz sits down with a trailblazing figure in the entertainment industry, Cheryl Boone Isaacs. As a public relations and marketing executive, Cheryl has worked on marketing campaigns for over 300 films, including Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Forrest Gump, and The King’s Speech. As the first African American and first person of color to serve as president of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, Cheryl shares her experiences, insights, and the journey that led her to become a pivotal force for change in Hollywood.

Kevin Goetz on diversity in Hollywood:

We have data that absolutely shows that voices, inclusive voices of, and I don’t mean simply race, I don’t mean color, I mean age, I mean different cultural languages, creates a more compelling discussion. Much better idea generation. This is a fact. I’ve done a lot of research around this, obviously since #OscarsSoWhite. And the truth of the matter is, why don’t people just get it?

Career Highlights and #OscarsSoWhite

Cheryl’s impressive career as a marketing and PR executive spans over 300 films, however, it was her role as Academy president during the #OscarsSoWhite movement that brought her to the forefront of industry change.

Reflecting on this pivotal moment, Cheryl shares:

My saying was, folks, we need to widen our lens. There is a lot of talent that’s being left behind. There’s an audience that is not being served. This is silly. And you asked about #OscarsSoWhite. I put it this way, I’m in the car, I am driving. It’s a stick shift. #OscarsSoWhite pushed me into fourth gear.

Cheryl candidly discusses the challenges she faced as an African American woman in Hollywood:

When I would call up and make appointments, I would constantly be asked, are you one of Pat’s daughters, Pat Boone? And I would say, no, I’m not. And they would because of Bob, I think, take the meeting and every meeting after I would say, could you give me some names, so I could call? But it was always fun, not really, when the door would open and I’d just watch the face for a few minutes as we had to readjust to something different.

The Future of Hollywood and Diversity

Cheryl offers insights on the progress made and challenges ahead along with the importance of collaborative voices in the creative process.

Throughout her career, Cheryl Boone Isaacs has broken barriers. From her start in marketing, to her role as president of The Academy, and continuing with her current position of guiding future filmmakers at the Sidney Poitier New American Film School, Boone Isaacs offers valuable lessons for those entering the film world, reinforcing the importance of diversity, collaboration, and perseverance in Hollywood. For the full conversation, check out the podcast episode here. And let us know your thoughts on the episode in the comments!

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